wave ports和lumped ports的区别
看了下英文的说明,觉得还不是很懂哪位高手能具体地说明一下?
帮你传个英文说明吧,我觉得这个说得比较明白了,要是还不能理解,我抽空翻译一下
HFSS---the difference between wave port and lump port
With lump port=> the excitation is applied at a point/cell, as a voltage or current.
With wave-port=> the excitation is so-called eigen-wave, such as the quasi-tem wave supported by a microstrip line. It applies over a cross-sectional area.
voltage is scalar, wave is vector by nature, hence there are substantial difference between the two. So use waveport whenever possible, because "simulation of wave phenomenon" is what HFSS is designed for. And compare with the "correct" measurement whenever possible (i.e. measure "wave", not simply "voltage").
Why lumped port is there? It is easy to applied and people found that good/reasonable results can be obtained. Why? if the frequency is low enough or the excitation is applied at sufficiently small area, then the "wave" can be described by some "voltage" or "current", which must be "measured"/"calculated"/de-embedded/etc in the correct manner.
if the excitation can be applied on some locally uniform region=>waveport,
if geometry/material discontinuities are near/closer to the point of excitation=>lumped port might be the only way.
The subject of lumped vs wave port is actually complicated. people continue to study related matters, (e.g. arguing what is the "characteristic impedance").
Reading about the various de-embedding scheme should help with the understanding....
非常谢谢!不过英文我不是太懂,麻烦ych142帮帮翻译一下不胜感激
我大概翻译了一下,可能不太准确,希望对你有用,那位大牛有更好的理解,也欢迎批评指正!
With lump port=> the excitation is applied at a point/cell, as a voltage or current.
lump port的激励以电压或电流的形式,加在一个点或单元上。
With wave-port=> the excitation is so-called eigen-wave, such as the quasi-tem wave supported by a microstrip line. It applies over a cross-sectional area.
而wave-port的激励称做本征波,比如微带线馈源提供的准TEM波,它加在一个横截面(剖面)上。
voltage is scalar, wave is vector by nature, hence there are substantial difference between the two. So use waveport whenever possible, because "simulation of wave phenomenon" is what HFSS is designed for. And compare with the "correct" measurement whenever possible (i.e. measure "wave", not simply "voltage").
电压是标量,而波本质上是矢量,因此两者间有很大区别。当情况允许时,尽可能选择waveport,这是由于HFSS是为“波仿真”设计的,相对于简单的“电压”,测量“波”可使结果更精确。
Why lumped port is there? It is easy to applied and people found that good/reasonable results can be obtained. Why? if the frequency is low enough or the excitation is applied at sufficiently small area, then the "wave" can be described by some "voltage" or "current", which must be "measured"/"calculated"/de-embedded/etc in the correct manner.
那为什么还要使用lumped port呢,这是由于lumped port激励的添加简单,并且可获得良好的结果。如果频率很低或者激励加在足够小的区域上,“波”就可以用“电压”或“电流”来描述,必须用正确地方式测量、计算。
if the excitation can be applied on some locally uniform region=>waveport,
if geometry/material discontinuities are near/closer to the point of excitation=>lumped port might be the only way.
另外,如果激励可以加在某些局部均匀分布的区域,应该采用waveport,如果激励点附近存在几何或材料上的不连续区,lumped port可能就是唯一选择了。
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呵呵,本人也在学这个,前两天同样遇到这个问题,在网上找到的,希望对大家有用,不当之处欢迎指正
太感谢楼上几位兄弟了!
赞一个!
一直以为是外激励和内激励的区别,又看到了新东西
论坛里面好人真多啊
wave port必须是模型表面和外界接触的面,而lumped port可以是内部的一个面
可是有时候感觉会提示不能加波端口,在端口和空气和相切的地方。不知道是怎么回事啊?
非常 好! 感谢楼上兄弟的共享!
感谢!
虽然时间久了点,但是学习了!
好人啊!顶
呵呵,学习了
顶一下。
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